Windows mce vs mythtv




















Wouldn't the machine take a serious hit trying to record and transcode at the same time when they aren't using a hardware encoder? Well, if you're soft-encoding, you can choose any encoder you'd like. I'm not a Myth user, but it seems transcoding is only necessary because the test setup is streaming MPEG2 off of the hardware encoder.

Take a look at your Program Guide on Tivo. You can now change the settings on it to show the recorded programs by title. I'm not at home right now to remember the settings.. Man I need a price drop!!! You mean that apostrophe's are not used to announce the presence of an upcoming 's' on the end of word's?

Surely 10 million US retailer's can't be wrong?! Stylistically, the proper punctuation would probably be "It's official:", or "It's official! Many of us like the em dash, though: "It's official - ". You never use an apostrophe in it's to show possesion. As in: "Its official; I'm the Parent Share twitter facebook Re:The barbarians have won Score: 2 by cpt kangarooski writes: Actually, in the US, punctuation is within quotes, in the UK et al, punctuation is without quotes.

IIRC, the reason we Americans put them within is because otherwise they'd be 'lonely. Those only go inside if it was part of the quote. For example. Also, you are adding punctuation that wasn't in the quote? If the quote was a sentance that ended with a period, then you have added nothing. If your quote was not the whole sentance, then you NEED If you are throwing a complete quote in the middle of a sentance, t. For a long time it's been promised to come RSN, with pre-orders expected to be taken starting September Now, pre-orders are expected to be taken starting September 22 [pchdtv.

Using the machine that we installed from scratch in Part I of the analysis, we had zero issues playing DVDs. We would hear the DVD start up, spin and then just hang. Part of this may have to do with copy-protection, part of it may have to do with poorly constructed code. In either case, we can't watch "Nip Tuck" on the KnoppMyth machine without some ser.

Why the hell bring it up until after the main article then? Yes, you can make a really cheep MythTV box. McDonalds Happy Meals come packaged in a really nice box, looks good to eat, and comes with a nice toy, and is fully supported by McDonalds.

However, the Home Cooking Restaurant gets our recommendation because it will fit a wider variety of tastes with its various food, drinks, and dessert. Of course neither one is really accurate; analogies never are. It depends on what's important to you, in the end. MythTV supports a large set of plugins you'll never. It really put me off of PVRs.

But now I do have 3 TiVos which are very popular with everyone in the house You could go water cooling or go with an architecture that doesn't need cooling but that will either drive the price up or the CPU power of the system down. Or both. I'm just curious if the systems they built at the quoted prices would be something you'd want running in the living room 24x There may be more comments in this discussion. Without JavaScript enabled, you might want to turn on Classic Discussion System in your preferences instead.

Do you develop on GitHub? You can keep using GitHub but automatically sync your GitHub releases to SourceForge quickly and easily with this tool so your projects have a backup location, and take advantage of SourceForge's massive reach. However, for the enthusiast, MythTV takes the gold for its greater support for a variety of hardware and software codecs.

This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted. Full Abbreviated Hidden. More Login. MCE is really nice but I am partial to Linux Score: 5 , Interesting.

Unfortunately, we have a large issue with the amount of disk space that the MPEG2 codec consumes. A minute clip of video can take as much as MB. MythTV does not perform much better when video is downloaded at high quality, but we have the option to transcode, or re-render the MPEG stream into something a little more versatile.

For example, we can compress our cartoon captures down to a lower quality MPEG1 codec without sacrificing much quality; or with a XviD plugin, we can transcode our entire library into MPEG4 in the background.

In this analysis, we are taking video capture from analog cable. We are able to capture digital cable from a digital cable feed as well, but it requires the MCE machine to use a special IR module that actually controls the digital cable box.

I have a Tivo and attempted to use the IR modules to control it before caving in and getting the serial control. From what I read the IR control is a pain in the ass and switches channels extremely slowly giving you a lag feel which for some is rather annoying. They don't mention that in this review though. Of course, on the MythTV machine, we are actually able to skip the commercials entirely.

During our tests, 9 out of 10 commercial breaks were skipped flawlessly. ReplayTV's accuracy may be slightly higher than this, but for a free solution, Myth does an excellent job. This is a minor annoyance for me being a Tivo user.

I really wish I could easily do this. FF'ing the commercials is easy and the Tivo does do a good job once you get the hang of it but I would LOVE to see them just gone completely. From what I can see MCE is really beautiful. You get what you pay for though. Share twitter facebook. Score: 3 , Informative. Transcoding happens after the program is finished recording.

For best results though, use something with a hardware MPEG encoder to avoid said sacrifices. A Hauppauge PVR does the job nicely. Two do it even better. I thought about acquiring a Tivo sev. Score: 2. Well the article says obviously they could be wrong or with a XviD plugin, we can transcode our entire library into MPEG4 in the background. Score: 5 , Insightful. Quoted: MythTV does not perform much better when video is downloaded at high quality, but we have the option to transcode, or re-render the MPEG stream into something a little more versatile.

This is what I was commenting on. MythTV will transcode a recording after it is recorded into a different format. I personally dont do it, but I understand those that do. To be honest though If you have a hardware encoder on your tv capture, and a hardware decoder in your video playback Parent Share twitter facebook. Come over to the Dark Side Score: 3 , Interesting. I would LOVE to see [commercials] just gone completely ReplayTV, no commercials [replayfaqs. Here's the thing, I've got a Hughes DVR40 that I've hacked to allow both a larger HD instead of the stock 40 gigs and a variety of network stuff like extraction.

You can do all this, leaving your original drive untouched meaning if you have a problem you're free to reinstall the original before calling tech support. As such, and considering the low level of work [esp.

As for the commercials Moreover, when you hit play after noticing that your show began again, it understands that you react a split second after seeing the show, so it actually rewinds a bit and it may be looking for a black screen, I'm not sure. I have a hard time believing the ReplayTV option is much better Content, Uninterrupted Score: 4 , Interesting. I have a hard time believing the ReplayTV option is much better Here's the thing The fact that it's so much better than Tivo is one major reason the TV companies spent so much time suing the various RTV owners but left Tivo untouched.

As it records the RTV monitors the record stream and analyzes for commercial break cues such as fade-outs, fade-ins, sudden increases in volume normalization, stuff like that. So during playback, if you decide to "Skip Commercials", then the RTV just jumps right past those ad blocks. You don't even get a notification that they were there. No fiddling with remote buttons. It Just Works. For those other times, you can of course hit a manual second skip on the remote, or customize a button for longer skips, or punch in the number of minutes you want to jump ahead.

I'd imagine the Tivo is similar. The fact that the RTV tags the content chunks has some cool applications. It's a time saver. The second cool feature is a consequence of tagging the commercials: inverting playbvack to skip all content and play only commercials. I use this for the Superbowl - just play it back on "Content Skip" and you don't have to fast-forward through several hours of tedious homo-eroticism and tight bums but can just sit back and watch all the adverts uninterruped.

And as for hacking your Tivo to add extra disks and network connectivity, then Bravo! Score: 5 , Informative. Score: 4 , Insightful. Don't be ashamed of taking the easy route. The people who say MythTV or Media Edition are "better" solutions likely do not use their setups in a living room with a wife and kids around; or they are not taking into account the household's ability to manage the system.

With a Tivo, all you need is a remote and if there is a problem you press one button to nuke and pave the system to start over from scratch. The only dislike I have for the Tivo is the flat list of programs it displays. I miss the old Microsoft Ultimate TV system, which categorized by titles. This helped reduce clutter when the drive starts to fill up. Nothing wrong with this, perfectly legal Score: 3. Thanks for the suggestion. I went to the trouble of modding my box and putting it to use without actually opening a manual.

Go figure. This is true. That is the point I was driving at, but failed to com. Myth install Score: 5 , Interesting.

The biggest problem I remember them having the first time was the Myth and Linux install. Then in this review they go with KnoppMyth and gloss over the 20 minute setup Re:Myth install Score: 4 , Interesting.

Yeah, they do make it seem trivial to get everything setup with Knoppix Myth as if there is nothing really required from the user to get it going. If you spend the money on the software you are locked in to what MSFT wants to do DRM, on demand, etc but you don't have to spend the time tinkering to get it working.

Re:Myth install Score: 3 , Informative. KnoppMyth rocks. It is the only way to do the MythTV install quickly without either being an expert about how all the moving pieces fit together or having an exact clone of one of the developer's machines.

If you want a no-tinkering solution, just buy a Tivo. And as for installing to HD, if you don't have a HD, where were you planning to store all this video data you're generating? Re:Myth install Score: 3 , Interesting. I think the logic is that you could then have pre-defined partitions set up to be the hosts for the database, and the video capture files.

Optionally the entire hard disk could be used for program information and recorded video. With sufficient system memory, you could do what some ISO distributions do, and load everthing to memory, and you would even ha. My shoes are Chinese. My math is Arabic, my writing Latin. And you complain that your neighbor is Mexican? Yes, I pride myself on not being obnoxious.

I'm sure you can tell. I didn't "bottom post". My apologies. I'm sure this has offended many of you FOSS purists. I'm sure you'll promptly ban me for my transgressions. Find a crucifix and nail me to it!

I guess the point I'm trying to make with quite a bit of satire is that if you folks weren't so rigid, maybe more people would take up your cause. Microsoft didn't make it to their level by pissing off their potential users. I understand how much time and dedication it has taken to develop your product for free. However, if you want to attract a larger audience I was honestly interested in Myth. However, after such negative responses as I received, it totally turned me away from Myth.

The responses I received here were what turned me completely away from Myth that, and the fact that the "simple" Mythbuntu installation wouldn't even run on my hardware. Conversely, I've received nothing but helpful, positive responses in similar forums that are dedicated to Windows Media Center.

Those folks go the extra mile and don't criticize when someone asks a stupid question. Media Center isn't perfect. However, there is a TON of free-open-source-software or donation-ware for Media Center that accomplishes everything that I want to do.

Admittedly, I'm still tweaking and learning new tricks The machine I built is silent, cool, and does everything I've read that Myth can do. Yes, I spent quite a bit of money on the machine and the extenders to make them do what I want to do I'm pretty anal when it comes to building a reliable machine that will stand the test of time I don't cut corners The machine is overkill.

It will probably still be doing its job in 10 years I'm sure I'll receive a lot of flames from this message, but I really don't care. I'll be deleting my Myth account pretty soon anyway.

I hope you'll reply to future requests from newbies who challenge your pre-conceived notions with more care than you replied to mine. On Wed, at , brianr69 gmail. IIRC, I was late to that discussion, and by the time I had posted that you could contact me off list and we'd work on it together, you had gone. As to the install disk for myth-buntu? If your actually serious about trying mythtv, I'll remake the offer, if not enjoy your coaster.

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of rule 14 of the Internet. Login Register Help. Mailing List Archive GT.

Re: MythTV vs. Windows Media Center [ In reply to ]. That said, almost no shows are marked as Copy Never because of the backlash from consumers--and most instances of its occurring in the past 10 years have been mistakes--the flag was applied in error. You may also remember hearing about Windows MCE deleting some show a few years ago--this was one such case of mistaken application of the flag by the broadcaster.

There has been a lot of discussion about what's reasonable for other content, and I've seen statements that 30 days is the maximum, regardless of how or where it's recorded. Granted, no definite time limit has been set in the courts or the law. And, please, don't try to tell me you planned to criticize, comment, report, teach, or research the game. MCE can't play MKV format without a bunch of dicking around, and installing plugins from dubious sources.

Although I might say, "Oh Walt!! Reynolds at fiserv. From: mythtv-users-bounces mythtv. I've only tried to find movies torrents to download a few times Either the quality sucks, it's in the wrong language, it isn't the whole movie, or it isn't what it appeared to be at all. Each time I've tried to download some torrents, I just end up wasting more time than it's worth.

I would rather just pay a few bucks to rent the thing than to spend hours to find what I want online somewhere. Is there some place to find complete, high-definition, English-language movies to download that is reliable and convenient?

Maybe I'm looking in all the wrong places. Of course, I've only tried a few times because it frustrated me so much. This is going to be darn near impossible, as far as I'm aware all the changers blast the channel and not button presses or anything.

You could in theory set something to play on demand then record channel 01 or whatever it is. I'm wondering why you even need to record on demand, if you are recording things when they air then you have them ready to go. If you want to use on demand you can still do so without recording it, kinda the point of it isn't it?

Reynolds fiserv. This list is pretty strict about prohibiting discussion about activities that could jeopardize the project, such as how to find unauthorized content. This list isn't the place to respond to that, I will assume that the discussion to date has been about movies that people have legitimately ripped from disc's they own and placed in a mkv container Such a thing should not be discussed here.

But I'm only thinking that I'll need one Comskip will not work on DRM restricted recordings made via a cable card, since it cannot access the underlying files to analyze them. That's a big advantage to using a non-DRM'ed recording device. Be aware that DRM can cause recordings to fail, expire, etc. The latest example is that a lot of people recording the SuperBowl on their Ceton cards missed the last quarter.

Often times, Sat. Again - one can't always say "no". Imagine if the US just rebelled and didn't watch the super bowl. I wonder what the impact would be. Would the promoters learn their lesson. Of course, everyone would have to make it clear they are not watching for DRM reasons. That would be funny. On Thu, Feb 10, at PM, john. It's a legitimate feature request, not so much for the purpose of recording, but for access. The way I do it isn't ideal.



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